in town with obama the whether obama should have dealt with him. it was one of the mono and obama fell short. >> the result is historical unique. in the 50 years of presidential debates, and nothing there has ever been a debate where there was such a decisive win in an absence of gaff. if you have something like four with eastern europe, or others along the way, it is decisive. it is usually a muddled outcome, or just one bad moment, like i knew jack kennedy. there was not a sound bite in this. one other point, the moderator. i know jim lehrer has taken a lot of abuse because he lost control of the debate. we want the moderate enough to be in control. why should be in control of the debate? the debate ought to be about the participants. if the moderator ever in the future says, we have got to stop this and move on, i would like to hear one candidate say, why? besides we have to have six segments instead of five. >> the criticism of jim lehrer is -- from time to time, obama would look at him saying, help me, jim. mitt is not playing fair. >> in that